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date: '2020-09-17 08:21:16'
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Back in early 2019 I pre-ordered a Librem 5 which I'm STILL fecking waiting for.. I suspect that when the pine64 site is back up, I could pre-order the manjaro pinephone and play about with it for a while before the librem 5 sees the light of day if it ever does..

Then, if the pinephone is close enough to usable as a daily driver then I'll go through the undoubtedly tricky process of requesting a refund for the Librem 5 (bought it through a company which I've since had to close down).

I have multiple pine64 devices which I've always been very impressed by, hence buying more.  I have one other purism device.. and I am less impressed by it (hardware clock resets to 1970 if battery dies, wifi receiver is poor compared to other devices, pureOS maps back to a different key layout every so often)..

Pine64 are awesome at community updates etc. Purism are woeful at this and only send occasional marketing emails that pretend to be updates..